Siempre tengo como referencia una frase de Benjie Franklin:
"La libertad son dos lobos y un cordero votando que van a comer, la libertad es el cordero, armado, impugnando la votación"
Por ese motivo eligieron la República y no la democracia. A pesar de éllo después de 230 años tienen, gracias a los neo-hamiltonianos un estado elefantiásico.
"Legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there are in any country uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right."
Thomas Jefferson
"While it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from Nature at all it is considered by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no one has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society."
Thomas Jefferson
"Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."
Thomas Jefferson
"Private property is a creature of society, and is subject to the calls of that society, whenever its necessities shall require it, even to its last farthing, its contributors therefore to the public exigencies are not to be considered a benefit on the public, entitling the contributors to the distinctions of honor and power, but as the return of an obligation previously received, or as payment for a just debt."
Benjamin Franklin
"All property, indeed, except the savage's temporary cabin, his bow, his matchcoat and other little acquisitions absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the creature of public convention. Hence, the public has the rights of regulating descents, and all other conveyances of property, and even of limiting the quantity and uses of it. All the property that is necessary to a man is his natural right, which none may justly deprive him of, but all property superfluous to such purposes is the property of the public who, by their laws have created it and who may, by other laws dispose of it."
Anónimo, noto que te inquieta el tema de la propiedad privada en el enfoque de Jefferson y la frase de Hayek ¿?. En lo personal, esperaré un argumento que les de contexto para opinar. ¿Podés ponerte un Nick para saber con quién hablo y no confundirme con otro eventual Anónimo?
Respecto de la frase de Hayek cambiando "liberal" por "capitalista de libre mercado", sería cuestión de preguntarle a los chinos de Deng Xiaoping qué opinan. (A los dos universos en que disoció a la sociedad china).
Ya que el anónimo se borró haré un comentario sobre Jefferson y la propiedad privada. A este muchacho Jefferson lo que le interesaba fundamentalmente era preservar los derechos individuales, incluído el de propiedad, por eso eligió como sistema de gobierno, junto a sus camaradas, una REPÚBLICA y no una DEMOCRACIA. Eso no significaba que abogara por una propiedad privada totalmente irrestricta sino que, en el caso de que el estado decidiera retomarla, se respetaran los derechos del individuo. El art.17 de nuestra CN sigue ese criterio. El problema es que, debido a la indolencia de los argentinos, nuestro país está bajo una DEMOCRACIA en transición hacia una OLIGARQUÍA y los derechos individuales no serán respetados. Eso explica la fuga de capitales que no cesa.
Tommy&fellows la sabían lunga.
ReplyDeleteSiempre tengo como referencia una frase de Benjie Franklin:
"La libertad son dos lobos y un cordero votando que van a comer, la libertad es el cordero, armado, impugnando la votación"
Por ese motivo eligieron la República y no la democracia. A pesar de éllo después de 230 años tienen, gracias a los neo-hamiltonianos un estado elefantiásico.
"Legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there are in any country uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right."
ReplyDeleteThomas Jefferson
"While it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from Nature at all it is considered by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no one has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society."
Thomas Jefferson
"Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."
Thomas Jefferson
"Private property is a creature of society, and is subject to the calls of that society, whenever its necessities shall require it, even to its last farthing, its contributors therefore to the public exigencies are not to be considered a benefit on the public, entitling the contributors to the distinctions of honor and power, but as the return of an obligation previously received, or as payment for a just debt."
Benjamin Franklin
"All property, indeed, except the savage's temporary cabin, his bow, his matchcoat and other little acquisitions absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the creature of public convention. Hence, the public has the rights of regulating descents, and all other conveyances of property, and even of limiting the quantity and uses of it. All the property that is necessary to a man is his natural right, which none may justly deprive him of, but all property superfluous to such purposes is the property of the public who, by their laws have created it and who may, by other laws dispose of it."
Benjamin Franklin
"Personally I prefer a liberal dictator to democratic government lacking liberalism."
ReplyDeleteFriedrich Hayek, 1981
Anónimo, ¿debo entender que vos prefieres un dictador de izquierda?
ReplyDeleteAnónimo, noto que te inquieta el tema de la propiedad privada en el enfoque de Jefferson y la frase de Hayek ¿?. En lo personal, esperaré un argumento que les de contexto para opinar. ¿Podés ponerte un Nick para saber con quién hablo y no confundirme con otro eventual Anónimo?
ReplyDeleteUna pequeña corrección a don Pero:
ReplyDelete"La democracia son dos lobos y un cordero votando que van a comer, la libertad es el cordero, armado, impugnando la votación"
Gracias Nestor. Por supuesto. Un error imperdonable.
ReplyDelete(Quería saber si estaban atentos)
ReplyDeleteRespecto de la frase de Hayek cambiando "liberal" por "capitalista de libre mercado", sería cuestión de preguntarle a los chinos de Deng Xiaoping qué opinan. (A los dos universos en que disoció a la sociedad china).
ReplyDeleteBasta, anónimo, a joder a otro lado.
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ReplyDeleteYa que el anónimo se borró haré un comentario sobre Jefferson y la propiedad privada. A este muchacho Jefferson lo que le interesaba fundamentalmente era preservar los derechos individuales, incluído el de propiedad, por eso eligió como sistema de gobierno, junto a sus camaradas, una REPÚBLICA y no una DEMOCRACIA. Eso no significaba que abogara por una propiedad privada totalmente irrestricta sino que, en el caso de que el estado decidiera retomarla, se respetaran los derechos del individuo. El art.17 de nuestra CN sigue ese criterio. El problema es que, debido a la indolencia de los argentinos, nuestro país está bajo una DEMOCRACIA en transición hacia una OLIGARQUÍA y los derechos individuales no serán respetados. Eso explica la fuga de capitales que no cesa.
ReplyDeleteDEMOCRACIA vs. REPÚBLICA